Hi Blitzen, i have a couple of questions: Phoenix and CZBZ: I wonder what you think (if you ever bother to think about it, and I doubt if you do) it does to real victims of abuse to be constantly bullied and played on by people like you I dont comprehend how these people bully and play me, could you explain (try to keep it brief if pos, my concentration is not great)

I am interested because i cant see it myself, and i dont feel in any way threatened. bullied or played in an online environmet, and cant imagine how i ever would. we take what we choose, get up from the seat and get on with real life, at least thats what i do.

second question, am I right in saying that your trying to tell us

That NPD does not exist - yes or no
That NPD exists but that we are wrong to use its name in vain if a pro has not diagnosed it - yes or no

I would agree that its easy to label people inappropriately just cos they dont fit with you. I thought about the just call it abuse thing that i think you have mentioned before. Nobody knew i was abused - NOBODY. it was not something i could describe as abuse that people understand abuse
to be. It was a pattern of behaviours that even I could not comprehend nor put a word to. it was disordered and distorted behaviours. Not abuse as we know it.

I have to agree that labelling somebody NPD who is not, is entirely wrong, but so is calling somebodya a bastard who has parents, so there's not a lot of point in getting in a big flap about it, cos it wont stop it happening.

Mariel, she's insidious isnt she? hahaha! Here I am asking everyone to ignore her, and I let her, with both her multiple personalities to suck me in.

Point well made. I should just wait quietly and with patience for B-Unit to be removed from this forum, or for everyone to figure out where the rest of us have gone where it is free from this kind of vile crap !

“Nobody can hurt me without my permission.”
Mahatma Gandhi
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Well maybe I spoke too soon Phoenix. But I again see hope in you.

It is stupid (and immature) to tell everyone else to ignore someone. Goes with the name calling. You know, those are easy bad habits to break. This is why you should not be working with young people. And it is also not going to get you anywhere to make someone else responsible for your actions. Who sucked you in? you initiate the posts directed at Blitxen and myself saying horrible things. You email us directly. When it is flipped back at you, oh boo hoo boo hoo, poor you" Everybody feel sorry for poor victim Phoenix. Who is sucking who Phoenix?

Read your Gandhi quote. Read it again. And read it again. Than apply it to yourself. It's about personal responsibility.

Mariel, she's insidious isnt she? hahaha! Here I am asking everyone to ignore her, and I let her, with both her multiple personalities to suck me in.

Point well made. I should just wait quietly and with patience for B-Unit to be removed from this forum, or for everyone to figure out where the rest of us have gone where it is free from this kind of vile crap !

Yer a cutie, thank you Mariel :)

Phoenix 101, you are allowing yourself to get sucked back in. It is obvious that the two are one in the same people.

Is this person the victim or the culprit? Are you aware that narcissism also goes hand and hand with other disorders?

Not answering this person is a commitment to your healing. Can you honestly see any difference between the person you are trying to heal from and this person here?

Phoenix said:

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Do not talk about things of my life without knowing what I lived, knowing how I loved, knowing how i was abused.
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I am not blind, I see how you behave habitually, and that is all I need to know.

GD